Join S.M. Harlow and I as we talk about tea, treats and people giving up their eyes (again!)
0:00- Interview with S. M. Harlow
12:00-Dish of the Week: Scones
21:07- Tea Time: Tea Time!
48:20: Bright Eyes and a Magical Tea Party
Hello, I'm S. M. Harlow. The author of A Tea Witch's Grimoire. I am a simple loving nature lover and witch, with a husband and a son in Alabama. We moved from California and have been living a gentle and mindful life. When I am not writing, doing readings, building up the homestead, or visiting friends and family, I am studying to become a traditional doctor of naturopathy. My craft works very closely with nature and my ancestors.
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[00:00:00] Susana: Hello, everybody, and welcome to Dine with the Divine. I'm your host, Ashley, and together we'll be exploring the magical, the mystical, and everything in between. On today's episode, we're going to talk about tea and people switching eyes once again. I know we talked about people switching eyes before at this point, but yeah, you'll see.
[00:00:19] Anyway so I hope you're having a great week, and if not, I hope it gets better soon. Okay, so today we have a great guest. We have S. M. Harlow. She is the author of A Tea Witch's Grimoire.
[00:00:31] She is a simple nature lover and witch with a husband and a son. She lives in Alabama. When she is not writing, doing readings, building up her homestead, or visiting friends and family, she's studying to become a traditional doctor of natural path.
[00:00:48] Her craft works very closely with nature and her ancestors. How are you? I'm doing
[00:00:54] Ashley: really
[00:00:54] Susana: good. Super
[00:00:55] Ashley: excited. I'm so excited.
[00:00:56] Susana: Hi! Good! I'm so glad! I'm [00:01:00] so happy to have you here. I really like your book, because number one it's very, again, aesthetically pleasing. Yeah, it's very cute.
[00:01:08] I like it a lot. And I do drink a lot of tea, so I was like, oh, it's perfect for me.
[00:01:12] Ashley: It's tea for me. Cheers to
[00:01:14] Susana: that. Cheers to that. Yay. Yeah, you already got your tea. See, I just got my water. Boring, , what I usually ask everybody is how did your story with spirituality and all this good stuff start?
[00:01:29] Oh gosh, that's a loaded
[00:01:31] Ashley: question. , spiritual spirituality and really my whole magical path. It started like probably how most everyone has. started in a way where they just felt magically inclined, especially as a child, so I think my earliest recollection of really tapping into nature and my ancestors happened when I was about 11 years old.[00:02:00]
[00:02:00] And I would love to say that I contribute a lot of that with my grandmother, who helped take care of me at that young age. She was very much in tune with her spirituality and her beliefs and her traditions when it came down to family and bloodlines and especially with healing, the healing aspect and using natural remedies.
[00:02:23] And so that really touched me and connected me deeply with that. I used to run around in the schoolyard trying to help any kind of kids that just would trip over and hurt themselves and so on, and I would try to like, help heal them with my hands, and then take them to the nurse's office.
[00:02:44] Susana: Doodle. Yeah. Hahaha.
[00:02:47] Ashley: But, I felt such great love and connection within nature itself. And, it, it just stuck with me over my young teen years. And [00:03:00] it, I really fully embraced it when I was about 17 years old and I started working at a metaphysical store. And it was... It's basically my first step in was just like, Oh my God, I am home.
[00:03:14] I could really be myself in here and really learn and just and grasp all the different types of history and correspondences and just really the craft in general, so learning everything, especially about herbs. and the folklore behind it. It drew to me because it reminded me very much of my grandmother and what she used to do.
[00:03:43] And... From there, I moved forward and I worked in a Chinese acupuncture clinic, actually, who was, she was amazing acupuncturist, but she also had owned a tea room in the [00:04:00] same clinic. And I was able to learn from this wonderful tea master all the benefits. And all the healing spiritual aspects of tea in general, all of the rituals, behind it.
[00:04:14] And it just, it connected to me very deeply. And working in this store, this clinic, I was able to also serve tea to its patients, to the clients that came in. And in a way, that's where I started to really embrace my whole magical nature with my desire to heal people. Like, through energy and through knowledge.
[00:04:43] And... Every time when I met people and I'm just such an active listener, so I would listen to people and listen why they would come in and what they were seeking and so on and just I combined the two and just really served it to them in a way, it's just like, [00:05:00] here's some blessings, but yeah, so it just, it really took off from there in my young adult years.
[00:05:08] And yeah. And I just started blending so many teas, blending so many herbal remedies, combining both the health aspects and the magical correspondences together, yeah, and that's what, that's how A Tea Witch's Grimoire began. It's really all of my own recipes that I had created over the years. Wow.
[00:05:32] And tested with friends, with family, with people who just came up on my path, yeah.
[00:05:39] Susana: The first thing I even noticed about you is I'm very I'm not gonna call myself scatterbrained, because I like to call it organized chaos. That's what goes on in my brain every day.
[00:05:50] I know the things I have to do, can't figure out the order. Can't figure out when I'm going to get it done, but I know I have to do it anyway. When I just started speaking to you, even as soon as we got on this [00:06:00] call, I instantly felt like calm. I was like, Oh, because I'm like, Oh my God, sorry. I'm so late.
[00:06:05] And you're like, that's okay. And I'm like. Wow, I have to bring myself way down. I have to calm down. This woman is very relaxed. Let's flow together. Yes. I instantly was like, okay, I'm doing a lot and I'm okay. I'm recognizing this and I appreciate it. No, but like your presence, having you work in a, as you were just speaking, I'm like work, you talk about working in a tea room and talking to people and serving these teas and also talking to them.
[00:06:40] I'm like, yeah, I can see that. I'm like, I can totally see that your presence is very comforting and calming. I feel like we're sitting at someone's table in a cottage right now and we're just like over the internet. But yeah, I'm like, I [00:07:00] feel like you're just like, Hey, girl, how's it going?
[00:07:05] Tell me all about it. I love it. Let me read your tea leaves. The wind's blowing outside. Like it smells like sweet. That's sweet. Like nature. Oh, I'm like, I'm there. I'm there right now. If you can't tell, I have it. Thank you. I have a very active imagination, but I love it. Yes,
[00:07:28] Ashley: I love it. Put me there. Bring, I'm glad to be inspiring that spark of imagination because honestly, we all need it.
[00:07:37] We all
[00:07:38] Susana: need it. I remember I used to, one of the jobs I've had in my life that I hated. I remember every time I go, this is so embarrassing, but weird. I would go to the bathroom, and I would sit on the toilet, and I'd close my eyes, and I would just visually just go somewhere else, for, like, [00:08:00] I'm like, I am in this place.
[00:08:03] I am. Okay. Cause I have to go back outside, but I will live.
[00:08:10] Ashley: I did exactly that too. Honestly especially in high school, like when I wasn't. In the right state of mind, I would go to the bathroom and I would listen to Beethoven. Just oh, it's weird. I know it's weird because it's classical music, but honestly, I used to rock out with it in my head and he just, he would just cleanse me.
[00:08:36] Susana: I love it. I used to, so I used to play the violin. And so I listened to a lot of. Classical music when I was younger. But I generally enjoy classical music
[00:08:45] and I think of, like... Again, my active imagination. I just imagine, watching all these, people in Versailles, at a pool and these little things, it's so random.
[00:08:57] Ashley: It's so true. It's not [00:09:00] random. Honestly, you and I are on the same wavelength. Because that's exactly how I picture it,
[00:09:05] Susana: too. I really do.
[00:09:06] I'm just, like, watching them and I'm like, oh my god, everyone's so gorgeous. Oh gosh.
[00:09:13] Sorry, getting way off topic
[00:09:15] Oh, I wanted to ask you about becoming a doctor of naturopathy. Now what, can you just explain what that is? Because I feel like I know, but some people may not know. And again, I only know. Yeah, it's
[00:09:31] Ashley: a traditional doctor of traditional naturopathy. It's basically a preventative practice of using all sorts of different types of natural ways of healing your body in a way that it will help prevent any types of illness or or future diseases.
[00:09:52] It's basically just to help. Optimize your overall wellness, help keep your body balanced,
[00:09:59] Susana: [00:10:00] basically. Okay, that's wonderful. I think it's so important that we all, get to do something like that. Because there's so many ways that you, and I... I'm a nurse. I give chemo for a living. So there's so many ways that are good, about Western medicine, but there's also so many things that you can do to help yourself that are natural, that are easy on your body.
[00:10:26] And I feel like, yeah, we don't investigate. I don't think, cause I know, especially in this space. You have a lot of people who are like, I'm never taking an antibiotic. And I'm like, okay,
[00:10:41] girl, that's fine. But like, you're strep through, it's going to last for four months. But girl, it's not my business. But then there's people who will say, oh this isn't a good either, but I like how you just said that you're like, no, this is like a preventative thing. And it's also supplemental, right?
[00:10:56] Take your blood pressure medicine, but maybe [00:11:00] also drink some tea that is good for you and will help your heart. There's nothing wrong with just doing two things at the same time. There's benefits to everything. Yes.
[00:11:10] Ashley: Yeah. Majority of being mostly what you eat, too. Just
[00:11:14] Susana: being
[00:11:14] Ashley: very mindful of what you are taking into your body because really that's where it all starts, yes. Same goes for tea. Yes, there are some tea that is very beneficial for you, but there's also some other teas that, you should definitely look into because it can also sometimes create an imbalance inside your body, depending. You have to basically find that perfect balance. Exactly.
[00:11:43] Susana: Yes, I love that.
[00:11:45] And thank you for acknowledging both sides, because I think that's good. I feel like there's just too much of one or the other. We don't need to do that. We can all work together to help each other. That's the point, right? Yes.[00:12:00] Okay, we're going to go to our dish of the week. So this week, we're going to talk about something that goes very with tea. Because we're talking about tea today. We're about scones. I love scones I am a scone enthusiast I will buy them when I see them.
[00:12:18] I think they're one of my favorite pastries, like, what kind?
[00:12:23] Ashley: Oh
[00:12:23] Susana: no. I like scones. Okay. No, it's fine. We're going to talk about the different kinds you can have because there's lots of, I like the scones with like blueberries. I don't, I'm not into, I know everybody likes cranberry orange, but I don't I'm with you on that.
[00:12:42] Yeah. . I'll eat like a craisin. Like I like craisins if it's by itself. And I'm just like, years ago I went to Bonnaroo and it's a music festival if anybody doesn't know what Bonnaroo is. And I went there, and you can't like, it's so hot, because it's in Tennessee and it's in like July.
[00:12:59] I [00:13:00] know it's in June. Yeah, it's so hot and you have to like camp out. It's like very festival y, but it's very well organized. It's really fun. But you can't eat heavy food, like in the heat. And you're camping, like no. So I just ate craisins for five days. And I was like,
[00:13:17] Ashley: so good. What are they calling that now?
[00:13:19] Girl dinner, yeah,
[00:13:22] Susana: girl dinner. Craisins. Oh my god, I ate days worth, I could eat days worth of craisins and dried mango and just be fine. Like, I'll live. My blood sugar will be a thousand, but it'll be fine. Anyway.
[00:13:45] So if you're like, what's a scone? You probably know, but I'll tell you. So scones are different. So there's English scones, which are like American biscuits. A little bit like that. And they're usually have like clotted cream [00:14:00] or butter or jam, but I know so good. I'm going to die clotted cream.
[00:14:05] I'm obsessed with clotted cream. And it's very good. My mom is British, so she's really into clotted cream and she's like, you can't get clotted cream here in America. And I'm like, okay. But she's super into it. American scones are a little different than English scones, but they're they're a little, like, heavier and a little sweeter and a little more dense, but, a scone is a scone and they're both delicious, so don't worry about it.
[00:14:28] Either way, you're going to enjoy yourself, whether you're here or across the pond. Toucher. I know. Usually in America, too, we put a lot of butter in it, so there's not a lot of butter on top of it. We usually eat it like that. Because there's already butter everywhere and it's delicious. And it's more sometimes people will put vanilla icing on their scones or sugar.
[00:14:48] But, okay, so this is the easy scone recipe that I'm going to put on the show notes so everybody can take a look. You can, so it's just like flour, sugar, baking powder, salt, butter, [00:15:00] heavy cream or buttermilk, eggs, and it's optional. You could put a little vanilla extract in it if you're making a sweet scone.
[00:15:08] I didn't know you could make savory scones. We'll get to it. Yes. Yeah, I didn't know that. I was like, oh, I've only ever had sweet ones. And then a lot of people like to put cinnamon because, I could put cinnamon also in anything because I just like cinnamon. Some people hate it, which is fine.
[00:15:23] To preference. Yeah, exactly. It's one of those things. I feel like cinnamon is a little bit, like, I'm very into cinnamon. When I like something, I like it. Like, So cinnamon I could eat all day. But I feel like Cinnamon's a little bit like a, or at least some people I know, like cilantro, they're like, I hate cilantro because it's like soap.
[00:15:42] Yeah. Or I love it. . Yeah. Also love cilantro. I don't have that soapy or whatever. I know. I'm so glad too 'cause I love it. Me too. I know. I feel bad for people who have the soak jeans. Who like, it tastes like soap for them. Okay. My mind is going everywhere. I was like, [00:16:00] wait, is that like the one? I was like the gene that makes your asparagus, when you eat asparagus, it makes your pee funky?
[00:16:07] I'm like, I don't know. Whatever, it doesn't matter. I thought it was but then somebody's like no it's like specific people. I don't know. I have to look it up because that's probably not true. I need to stop just listening to random people tell me stuff that's a lie and then believing it. Do your research, people.
[00:16:24] Exactly. Don't listen to, like, people just telling you random stuff and then you go on a podcast and then you sound dumb. Anyway. Here are some flavors that people like of their scones. So there's, and there's all the recipes in this link. There's links to every recipe in the link for the scones.
[00:16:43] Okay, so you have blueberry scones. I like blueberry scones. Ooh, chocolate chip. I've had those. Yes, those are good. That's a must. We have cranberry, orange, me, and Me. Yeah, we're not gonna do that too much here, but that's okay. Enjoy it. Banana? No, thank you. I don't like... [00:17:00] I like bananas. I do. But, just as bananas.
[00:17:07] I don't like them in other things. Like, if you just give me a banana, I'll be like, oh, great, yum, and I'll eat it.
[00:17:13] Ashley: Not even banana
[00:17:14] Susana: bread? Okay. Actually, that might be the only one. I do like banana bread. I do like a banana bread, and like a banana nut muffin I'll eat. Like sometimes I'm like, I don't know, you have to put bananas in everything just so we don't have to make cauliflower into everything.
[00:17:31] We'll have to calm down now. It's cauliflower rice, cauliflower crust, and nothing. Oh. Yeah. We have lavender. I like lavender. Yeah, I know. It's a weird acquired taste. Some people hate it. I get it. Yeah. Now that's like soap. I got it. It's weird. It's a preference
[00:17:51] Ashley: I guess, you
[00:17:52] Susana: know It is and lavender is like i've had lavender lemonade Which was like very pretty It's [00:18:00] very Instagrammable, but it doesn't taste very good.
[00:18:02] It's all beauty, no personality. Exactly. I'm like, I'm gonna take a picture of this, but I don't really want to drink the rest of it. But, it's fine. Lavender, people like lavender and everything. Sure. Yeah, raspberry almond. I'll keep it in my bath water. Yeah, that's fine. Keep your bath water or those little pillows that you put in the shower.
[00:18:21] Yeah. Ooh, I've had lemon blueberry. My mom makes this lemon blueberry cake. That's good. Thing, and it's delicious. Oh my god, it's so good. With the glaze. Yes! Girl. It's so good. I'm looking around
[00:18:35] Ashley: for like,
[00:18:35] Susana: nothing. I know, I'm like, I want something delicious. It's like, you probably have to cook it. And I'm like, nothing.
[00:18:43] Caramel apple. We got cinnamon chips. Okay triple chocolate scones that taste like brownies. Oh, if it tastes like brownies, I'm eating it. Cherry chocolate. I'm not into cherries, but that's fine. Some people really like cherries. Cool. It's a tart version. Yeah, mixed [00:19:00] berry. is
[00:19:05] pretty good. Ham and cheese, which is a savory scone. Huh. Sure, I'll eat that. And then fresh, really, have you had that? Yeah, it's delicious. Okay, I would have that. And fresh herb, which also sounds really good. So you would, yeah, for this one you're going to leave out the sugar, reduce the sugar, leave out the vanilla.
[00:19:24] And you're going to add like rosemary, garlic, black pepper. That one's probably
[00:19:30] Ashley: one of my favorites, actually.
[00:19:32] Susana: Some cheese on the side. Yes, that's what I said, too. add the cheese to the dough, too, they said. And then, like, bake it on top. I would eat that. That sounds delicious. That's another good one.
[00:19:44] Ashley: Maple bacon. Ooh. Yes. That one was a, like, a nice surprise when I had it at a tea room once.
[00:19:52] Susana: That sounds delicious! I would love that. Alright everybody, get your scones where you can get them, because they all sound good. [00:20:00] You need to make two. Say that
[00:20:04] Ashley: again? They're really easy
[00:20:06] Susana: to make, too. Yeah, they're really easy to make. I was, because I always, I'm just lazy, but, like, I like scones. I just wouldn't make them because I'm not, like, a baker.
[00:20:15] I can bake when I have to, but I'm not, like, usually don't do it. But I read it. I was like, oh, I can make this. This is very simple. Like, this is not as hard as I thought it was. Okay, yay! We love scones here. This is going to be the part of the show where I plug myself. If you're enjoying this show, keep listening to it, and you can follow me, and make sure you're subscribed, and so every Thursday you get a notification.
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[00:21:06] com. Okay. So next we're going to talk about different types of tea and how they're made since we had the tea witch here. It's a, it's actually pretty interesting because there are so many different types of tea.
[00:21:19] There's a lot of different types of tea and I feel like everybody's heard of all these things, but you don't really know the difference and if you're like me, you'll just try anything, but it's good to know what different types of tea, like the process and different things like that because it's very interesting.
[00:21:35] The thing about tea is, apparently, what I read from my research, it's all made from, this one plant, and this is true tea, right? It's called Camellia... Camellia... Sene... Seneusis?
[00:21:53] Thank you, Camilla Sinensis, whoo, there we go, we got through it guys. True tea comes [00:22:00] from this plant, and it originated in southern China like a long ass time ago guys, a long, I don't know, deets, you know I'm terrible with deets. And yes, for hundreds of years, it was cultivated and consumed by people there.
[00:22:15] Now it has two main variants, Camilla sinensis variant, which is also, wait, what's that's the same word? Okay. Anyway, ignore what I just said. There's, there are two main variants. So one primarily grows in China and the other grows primarily in India. So sorry, China and other East Asian countries, and it has like a milder, mellower kind of taste.
[00:22:41] And then the one grown in India has the hardier and more robust. Think chai, they're black tea, yes. Yeah, they're black tea, exactly. So now we're gonna go through the different types of tea. So first, there's black tea. That's what everyone's familiar with. If you go somewhere usually and you get [00:23:00] like your regular Lipton's tea bag, it's probably black tea.
[00:23:03] I'm a snob and I'm like, Lipton's? No thank you. I'm such a snob about tea, it's really bad. Not that I'm like super fancy, but it's just tea. I won't drink Lipton, I'm weird like that. But this is the tea most people are familiar with. So it's also in a lot of breakfast blends, right? Like, yes, Irish breakfast tea, English breakfast tea, which I really like.
[00:23:28] Those are examples of black tea. So black tea tends to be pretty high in caffeine. But it's only, it's still only about half the amount of caffeine as coffee. A one cup of coffee. Oh, 20%? Okay, that's what she said..
[00:23:41] It usually brews like dark, or it's like a coppery, that rusty, dark rusty color. And it's usually strong, and you know what black tea tastes like, I don't have to tell you. For black tea, the tea is usually harvested, wilted, and then lightly crushed. That sounds very [00:24:00] gentle and cute. I'm like, lightly
[00:24:04] crushed up, like, Little love taps on the teeth. But sometimes when there's tea, like Irish breakfast tea is broken up even more than like traditionally. And there's even a whole method to it called crush, tear, curl. I was like, okay, this is like, this is a situation. It's a process. Yeah. It's like a whole thing.
[00:24:24] Yeah. The tea leaves are then oxidized and then they turn like that brownish black color. So black tea again is primarily produced in China and India and then there's other countries that are starting to produce it such as Sri Lanka, Nepal, Vietnam, and in Kenya. And we'll talk more about Kenya in a minute.
[00:24:42] But usually in India, the black teas are really pretty strong. And they're usually used in breakfast blends. And they add a little bit of milk or sweetener to it to make it more palatable. And in India they have a black tea, special grading system to talk about, like, the quality of the tea.[00:25:00]
[00:25:00] Chinese black teas tend to be a little bit lighter and chiller. And they don't have to add milk to it. And they have a little bit less caffeine than the Indian black tea. So that's black tea. So now we have everybody else's, the one everyone else knows. Green tea, right? Green tea. It's another type of tea made from the tea plant.
[00:25:20] It usually green tea brews and it's usually green or yellow. And it contains half you tell me if this is right. I might be wrong. It contains half as much caffeine as black tea. That's what this one says. About five to ten percent. Okay. All right. So popular tea includes gunpowder, which I was like, Oh, I didn't even, I've never heard of that.
[00:25:43] One of my favorites. Yeah. If you like a more
[00:25:47] Ashley: robust roasty type of flavor of a green tea, like a lighter roasty flavor that you would love that one. I like that. I'm very earthy when it comes to my teas.
[00:25:58] Susana: Yeah, so I get [00:26:00] a tea. I really like boba, right? So I go to the boba place. I don't know what kind of green tea they're serving me, but I like my thing now.
[00:26:08] I don't know why I'm challenging myself. First of all, boba has sugar in it, in like the boba. So I always try to get it without sugar. Yeah, but it's so bitter sometimes. Like I can't. It's probably matcha. Okay. We're going to get matcha too. It might be, I don't know what it is, but usually I get cause I try to like cut out a lot of the sugar, cause I'm eating the boba, so I don't need all this, so I usually don't get like milk in it, or the sweetener, and I usually don't get milk, and I usually don't get sugar, I just get the straight tea, and I'm like, yeah, I'm fine, but like sometimes I'm like, man, this is hard to drink, this is rough, but I do it, cause I'm like, I feel like this is healthy for me, cause I'm just gonna stomach it, Like, but it's bitter.
[00:26:51] And then there's also Moroccan mint, which sounds really good, I would suggest. It is so
[00:26:57] Ashley: soothing. So soothing. [00:27:00]
[00:27:00] Susana: I like mint teas. They're very nice. I like them. Green tea is usually harvested and then immediately steamed or pan fried. I was like, wow, pan fried? That's interesting. Yeah, I don't really care.
[00:27:14] Yes, I know, right? This is like really cool. It's so dedicated. It really is, and it makes you really think, like, we drink, I feel like more people in the United States drink coffee. I don't like the smell of coffee, so I don't drink coffee, but I like really drink tea, and I don't stop to think about, like, the process of it, but reading about this made me appreciate it.
[00:27:36] I was like, damn, this is like really, A whole thing like it made me really feel good. So now when I drink another cup of tea, I'm like, thank you person So they
[00:27:52] stop oxidation soon after harvest and that's what gives it the green tea leaves their bright green color And that like earthy [00:28:00] taste the tea is then rolled and pressed until it's finally shaped and dried. So green tea is primarily produced in China and Japan. So japan green teas are steamed sooner after harvest.
[00:28:12] They tend to be slightly savory Oceanic quality is what this website said and they grew up into like a light emerald green. Japanese teas are sometimes also Shaded for weeks prior to harvest and this increases their levels of chlorophyll Caffeine and I pheny phenidine. Phe phenidine. Phe phenine?
[00:28:36] Pheonine? I'll say that. Pheonine! I think that's it. Which, cool. Oh, very healthy. Yeah, I'm like, ooh, chlorophyll. That's the plant stuff. That's great. That's the,
[00:28:47] Ashley: or like how my husband likes to call it, the blood of
[00:28:50] Susana: plants. It's true!
[00:28:53] Ashley: I've been using it a lot every day, actually, in my tea. It's really good for detoxification, so like, so it [00:29:00] really helps your immune system as well.
[00:29:01] It's good stuff. So if you drink tea, green tea, especially, every day, that's good for you. Okay,
[00:29:07] Susana: ooh, and I really like green tea. Some of the popular Japanese green teas are include, Sencha Ke, Sencha. Kukucha. Sencha. Thank you. Kukucha and Jaikuro. And Chinese green teas are usually pan fried after harvest in order to stop the oxidation process.
[00:29:27] And then these teas tend to be milder than Japanese green teas. And they brew up to a soft golden color. And then we mentioned the popular one, we mentioned Gunpowder, like you said you like it. And then Dragonwell.
[00:29:44] Ashley: Dragonwood is wonderful too, although it's a little bit more it's definitely a lot more earthy and it's a very required taste for that one. A lot of people may not like that one. I also really love the Genmaicha type. I think those are usually the ones that have that, rusted sesame [00:30:00] seeds, I believe it is.
[00:30:02] That is really, it's like has a nice nutty earthy flavor to it. I recommend it.
[00:30:09] Susana: Okay. Thank you. Tell us what to drink because and I love it. So then we have white tea. So white tea is a delicate, mildly processed tea. That's highly sought after by connoisseurs and enjoyed by experts and novices alike.
[00:30:25] At least that's what this website says. It usually has a light body and a mild flavor with a crisp, clean finish. And it tends to be low in caffeine, but some silver tip teas. I didn't get to Google what that is. But that is probably one of the most
[00:30:40] Ashley: expensive. That is probably one of the most expensive teas.
[00:30:43] But it's really delicate. Very light. And almost has a very light sweet flavor to it. But it's so delicate, you have to be careful to brew it. Or you'll make it taste terrible. Bitter, basically. You can [00:31:00] burn it. But yes. It's a really, that's a good option if you want some healthy white tea, but you're not so sure about the flavors, if you want something very light, that's a good starter.
[00:31:11] Susana: Oh, cause, so you mean you can burn it by brewing it like too long? And too hot. And too hot. Oh no, this is too hard
[00:31:24] Because like I used to really love I don't know if tiavana is still in business or maybe just not at my local mall It's not Oh, I used to work at one.
[00:31:34] Ashley: Oh,
[00:31:35] Susana: really? I used to love the tea of Hana. I went there I went there one time. I never bought the tea because it was always too expensive, but I did buy it one time.
[00:31:44] I would just drink the samples. I would go back and forth past the store a couple times. You were one of those. I sure was. I would come back when I'd see they bring a new teapot. I was like, what's that? It was so [00:32:00] funny. We had to, we were like, We had to. We couldn't say no. Like, okay, come in. One time it was like this guy and he's looking at me like, I've definitely seen you three times today.
[00:32:10] I'm like, Yeah, I have. I'm gonna drink some more tea. I'm sorry. I bought some Earl Grey tea from there one time. It was so good. Oh my god. I really like Earl Grey. Okay, sorry. Back to white tea. I'm so getting off topic. I'm getting silver tip teas. Ooh, I'm gonna Google that when we're done because I need to know more.
[00:32:30] It's minimally processed, like I said, and it's dried, before it's dried and then packaged. So in some case with the silver tip and silver needle teas, white tea is harvested from the first tips and buds of the tea plant before they fully open. And with white teas like white peony, oh I love peonies. They're harvested after the leaves unfurl and grow, and in both cases, white teas experience minimal amounts of oxidation.
[00:32:59] They're [00:33:00] specifically produced in the Fujian province, which has a very rich history. Oh, we talked about Kuan Yin tea before. Yeah. Yeah, we talked about Kuan Yin tea before and I think it's in Fu Jian too. That one is
[00:33:17] Ashley: a great tea after the Goddess of Mercy.
[00:33:20] Susana: Yes. I love that one. Me too, we talked about her on a different episode.
[00:33:24] But I really, yes, I think it's also the place where they grow her tea, too. So it also, there's some specialty white teas that are now being grown in Nepal, Taiwan and Sri Lanka. We also have Oolong. Oolong. Oolong. That one is probably, out of all
[00:33:43] Ashley: the teas, Oolong is my go to. My favorite.
[00:33:47] Susana: Yeah, I like oolong tea.
[00:33:49] I never know what it is. That's why I was like, I'm so glad we're doing this episode, but I'll buy it. Like,
[00:33:55] Ashley: it's all the same tea. It's really just the process, like how long
[00:33:59] Susana: they, [00:34:00] it
[00:34:00] Ashley: goes through the process, whether it gets oxidized or not. Things like that. As you see.
[00:34:05] Susana: Yeah. So oolong is partially oxidized tea, placing it somewhere between like black and green tea in terms of oxidation.
[00:34:13] It can range from 10 to 80 percent oxidation, which can brew up to anywhere from a pale yellow to an amber cup of tea. Many oolongs can be re infused many times, with like subtle differences in the nuance of flavor every time you brew it. And there's a lot of different types. There's milk oolong, which is...
[00:34:32] Oolong which is grown from special variants of the tea plant that have been cultivated for many years to Make it taste a little different. It's harvested wilted and then undergoes a partial oxidation depending on the type. Oxidation could be for a short time or it could be for a long time. And some oolong teas are rolled into small little balls.
[00:34:57] I'm doing the process like you guys can see me.[00:35:00]
[00:35:02] I'm like, everyone look at me. No, this is not a video medium. Tight little balls and then they're packaged and dried and packaged. They produce these in different parts of China and Taiwan and it's very, there's very special oolong teas that are just grown in Taiwan. All right, my
[00:35:23] Ashley: favorite oolong tea and I'm always going to recommend it to everyone.
[00:35:28] I first learned about it when I was in the acupuncture place.
[00:35:32] Susana: It was GABA oolong. So G A B A oolong. It's
[00:35:36] Ashley: basically a type of oolong that is so good for your health. And it helps lower your blood pressure. Helps reduce stress and anxiety. Helps lower cholesterol. It especially helps with your mental clarity, it basically helps remove that brain fog that you may experience like in the morning.
[00:35:58] So it's a great substitute for [00:36:00] coffee, if you want to get off coffee and, but you still want to drink something that helps your day start, it's gaba tea is the best because it helps not only with your alertness. And removing the brain fog, but it can also long term use can possibly help with Alzheimer's schizophrenia Parkinson's disease and also with your sleep, it can help basically produce better REM sleep as well.
[00:36:30] So you could really drink it throughout the day if you wanted to. I steep it up to like three times a day. I have it in the morning. In the afternoon and sometimes right before bed. 'cause by the time that you steep it, the third most of that caffeine is gone. So yeah. Yeah. You're ready to go right to bed.
[00:36:48] Susana: But yes, gpa, tea people, gaba, Saba. Ooh, I wrote that down. I'm here. I'm gonna try that. I love it, especially for sleep. It's nice to take something for, to [00:37:00] get you like down, chamomile tea is fine, but I'm always looking for other stuff too. Yes. Alright, then you have I hope I'm pronouncing this right.
[00:37:10] Her. Oh God. Pooh er. Pooh er tea. Yeah. Pure. Pooh er tea. Pooh er. Pooh er. Pooh er. I'm like, Hrrr. Hrrr. Pooh er tea. That one's fun. That one's fun. Yeah, it's like a partially fermented tea? Yes. Is this
[00:37:34] kombucha? What's going on here? I guess if you like kombucha, it will have,
[00:37:38] Ashley: a particular taste. If everyone likes, not everyone likes kombucha. It'll probably be
[00:37:43] Susana: the same for poor. Okay, makes sense. I got it. Go ahead. It's
[00:37:50] Ashley: actually I remember one of the fun things I learned about it with the tea master.
[00:37:54] He's like, this came from underground. They buried it. And I was like, what?
[00:37:58] Susana: It smells like that. [00:38:00] It smelled like fresh soil, so yeah, very earthy. It's very earthy. I like, I've never heard of it before. It's actually hard to find sometimes. You
[00:38:12] Ashley: have to go to a really good, legit, Chinese market sometimes.
[00:38:16] Or, like, to really find
[00:38:17] Susana: some really good quality Puerh.
[00:38:21] Ashley: Definitely find it at probably those tea restaurants, tea markets. Yeah, it's a very
[00:38:30] Susana: unique taste. It sounds, yeah, it sounds unique. Like you said just now, it has an earthy taste. That's what it says here. And it's deeply satisfying, apparently, to this website, is what they said.
[00:38:44] It has a fairly high amount of caffeine, about the same amount as a normal caffeine. black tea does. So the Puerh is processed in the same way that green teas processed, but then it ferments. Like when you said it was, they put it like underground, that's what they do. They leave it and they leave it to age more.[00:39:00]
[00:39:00] Then there's also Shou Puerh, which is produced using a modern accelerated ferment, fermentation method, where they, some, the regular Puerh tea was like, it's fermented over like a sub, a couple years. But the one they do now is like a different, like I said, accelerated version and it originates in the city of Pu'er in the Yunnan province in China and it's still primarily produced there.
[00:39:28] It's one of those things it's like you can't call it Pu'er unless it's actually from there. Like champagne. That's
[00:39:35] Ashley: exactly what the tea master had said. Oh, yeah. I remember he was
[00:39:39] Susana: always so proud
[00:39:41] Ashley: When he showed it to me that for the first time like it was literally in a box in the counter in a drawer, because he was very careful you can't really leave it out too much in the sun or it might actually dry it out.
[00:39:53] Or in the light, so he pulled it out and it, when he uncovered it, and then finally revealed it, he [00:40:00] was so proud and y'all lifted it up and it looks
[00:40:02] Susana: like a little cake, like a big
[00:40:04] Ashley: black cake. And he's just like, smell it, and
[00:40:08] Susana: just
[00:40:09] Ashley: inhale it because it really is like a pride and joy to finally have it after all those years, when you finally pull it out from under the ground and see how
[00:40:18] Susana: it turns out.
[00:40:19] It is also
[00:40:20] Ashley: as much as of a delicate process because you have to make sure that Humidity doesn't get to it doesn't mold things like that, so
[00:40:29] Susana: Yeah It's very interesting. Yeah,
[00:40:33] Ashley: I tried it try it at least once and really think how it is Oh, look, there's the deer. Oh, I'm sorry.
[00:40:40] Susana: No, that's fine. It's fine.
[00:40:42] That's important if there's a deer. I love when I see like a whole family of deer. I don't know why it makes me so happy. I'm like, oh, look how cute they are! I'm like, yes! It's chillin Yeah, we just had
[00:40:54] Ashley: a, like a herd, I keep saying herd, we had a flock of turkey come in here right before we started [00:41:00] talking,
[00:41:00] Susana: okay, here's the thing about wild turkeys I'm so scared of them. I worked at this place one time, where they chased me into the door of like where I was working. Like I was walking towards the door and there was like, cause they, they rolled deep. They rolled like a gang. So they're following me and I'm like, okay, whatever.
[00:41:21] And they like pick up speed. So I picked up speed cause I was like, I don't know what's about to go down right now. And I can't do this, so I'm running to the door of this, nursing home that I worked at for like a month. I'm screaming and this lady, like, lets me in and I was like, Oh my god, there's wild turkeys out there!
[00:41:41] She's like, okay. I was so nervous. Oh no. They scare me. They're so cute. Like, I find wild turkeys actually, like, really beautiful, but I'm scared shitless of them. Yeah.
[00:41:55] Ashley: Gosh, they're dinosaurs.
[00:41:57] Susana: I know, they are. You [00:42:00] know what I learned today? Sorry, random fact, I know, we're doing this, it's fine. Sharks are like, one of the oldest living things on this planet.
[00:42:08] Like, they're older than trees. Like, just trees, in general. Interesting.
[00:42:15] Ashley: That kind of makes
[00:42:16] Susana: sense. It's like, it was like a water world. Before right? Yeah, they were like, yeah, no sharks are just cool. Sharks are older than trees I was like just trees in general. They're older than them. I'm like, that's crazy That's wild I know, I was like, okay.
[00:42:32] What about like, with alligators and crocodiles? I think they're on like the same wavelength. Because I think they, I don't, okay, I'm not a dinosaur expert. I hope someone on here is listening. But like, I guess it depends on which like, era or whatever. But all those things are related to like, the T Rexes and things like that.
[00:42:54] Brachiosaurus, that was my favorite dinosaur. Because I liked the neck was small. I thought it was cool. [00:43:00] And they were herbivores. They didn't eat other animals. I'm like that. Anyway, God, again, getting off topic. Okay, back to tea. On tonight's Tea and Dinosaurs. Like, what's going on? People are like, Ashley, shut up.
[00:43:17] Tell us about the tea. tea and then stop talking. I'm like, Oh my God, I'm sorry guys, I'm sorry. Okay, purple tea. Purple tea is a relatively new type of tea and it's only been available for a few years. It's produced from a rare purple leaves that are found growing in the wild in the Ashan region of India, but today it's produced primarily in Kenya.
[00:43:40] The thing about Kenya is that the people who produce some teas have gone to Kenya and they figured out that the weather there. And like the ground and the soil is like very good for producing tea. So now they produce a lot of tea in Kenya. It's not native to there. They just brought it there because they're like, Oh, [00:44:00] this is a good place for us to do it.
[00:44:02] Because it's ideal for commercial tea production. So it's a big thing now in Kenya. Huh. Yeah, this purple tea has a light body and a mellow flavor. It's very low in caffeine but very high in antioxidants and anthrocycines Cycines? Cycines. Cycines, maybe? Purple tea is usually produced in the same manner as oolong teas and They get a little reddish purple, and that's why it's called purple tea.
[00:44:34] Then we got matcha All right, we're almost there's a lot of different teas green tea Yeah, matcha is a powder green tea. I'm like, jesus christ. There's so many teas. I didn't realize that. So matcha is like yeah powder green tea I have a really good, recipe for these like matcha almond brownies you make with yeah white chocolate chips matcha [00:45:00] It's actually really good.
[00:45:01] I really like it. You sold me. That sounds so good. I'm going to put that recipe up here because everyone should know it. Yes. It's produced from a, it's produced from a specialty plant that's shaded for at least three weeks prior to harvest. Okay. It also it has increased chlorophyll and that's what gives it the color the leaves are steamed immediately after harvest, to halt the oxidation process at all And then they're shaved and dried like a typical green tea And then to make the matcha they grind it on a stone, at least that's the traditional way, into a very fine powder and that's matcha.
[00:45:39] Then there's mate tea. Mate is a tea like drink that's made from a plant actually in South America. It's not tea. Mate. I'm sorry. Mate. It's not the like, the legit tea because it's not from the same plant, the tea plant, but it's like the tea that they drink and it does it has caffeine.
[00:45:59] Ashley: [00:46:00] Yes.
[00:46:00] Lots.
[00:46:01] Susana: It's just like coffee. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's 100% Yeah, it's prepared in a hollow gourd and by adding leaves and hot water to the gourd and then the tea is consumed through this filtered straw called a vambilla. And in many South American countries, mate is shared amongst a bunch of friends and they like just keep refilling it and it's like a social thing.
[00:46:26] Then you've got your herbal teas that like everybody loves an herbal tea right so the thing about herbal teas It's not technically if we're gonna be technical about it, it's not technically tea. We just call it tea because It's like, you know a mixture of herbs and it's usually herbs a blend. It's usually a blend of herbs and spices It usually has no caffeine.
[00:46:46] But we usually use, peppermint tea, chamomile tea, lavender tea. People like to use that. And those are herbal infusions. Hibiscus, ginger, lavender. People like to use that in their tea. Ooh, I love ginger tea. Anytime, anywhere. And [00:47:00] then you have, Rooibos. Rooibos. Rebus. Okay, thank you. Thank you.
[00:47:07] I'm god, this is I'm terrible with the pronunciation. It's a particular type of herbal tea made from a plant native to South Africa. These teas are sometimes referred to as red tea or red bush tea, and they are naturally caffeine free.
[00:47:26] They have caffeine in their tea. It has a natural sweetness, and sometimes people put a little milk in it, sometimes they don't. Yeah, it's almost like a honey flavor. Okay, yeah, it can be mixed with things like earl green earl grey tea, or chai. People seem to mix it a lot with that. Now you're like, I know too much about tea, Ashley.
[00:47:49] That was too much. That's what you're getting. You have the tea bitch here. I can't not talk about tea. And that's our tea time section. Yay! Tea time where we learn [00:48:00] something. So we learned about tea today during tea time. Yay. Yay! Yay! Okay. We got a lot of information. Now we can all settle down and relax.
[00:48:11] Because now it's story time. Oh yes. Yes. We're going to tell a story. It's a short story. This story is called the Magician's Tea Party. So we had to find another tea related thing. Because this is what we're doing today. The Magician's Tea Party. is a story that was written by a British suffragette suffragette, and author Evelyn Sharpe in 1900.
[00:48:37] So Evelyn Sharpe was a pacifist and a writer, and she was part of the militant Women's Social and Political Union, and she helped became the first editor of Votes for Women during the First World War in the UK. She was also a tax resister. She decided she did not want to pay taxes. She was arrested twice.
[00:48:58] Good for her. [00:49:00] I don't want to pay taxes either. You're really good. Yeah, I know. I'm not about that prison life, but I also don't want to pay taxes. You know I'm so scared of jail. Okay. But then she also, I guess in her spare time, when she wasn't Paying her taxes and campaigning for women's rights.
[00:49:17] She was like, you know what? I'm gonna write a children's book. So this is a story. It's called the Magician's Tea Party and this is how it goes. So the story starts with this king. He's called the Little King and it seems King Wistful. And he's an eight year old king of what is called the Cheerful Isles.
[00:49:35] But he calls them the Monotonous Isles because he hates it there. He's like, Oh, I hate the slaves. It's so ugly and dull. He literally says it's the dullest and ugliest most and most wearisome place in the world. Wow. Okay. Wearisome. Wearisome. That's a good word. It's wearisome. The king, so the king's outside his door.
[00:49:58] He's looking around his kingdom just being like, [00:50:00] Damn, this kingdom's dumb. Can't stand it. It's so stupid. He just hates it. And so then he hears another little girl singing. And she's singing this song. So this is the song. The song says... Sing song, don't be long. Whistle, come and play. Sing, I don't know how it goes, I'm just making up my own cadence.
[00:50:18] Sing song, it's very wrong to say and say away. The world is much too nice a place to make you pull so long a face. It's full of people being kind, and full of flowers for you to find. These heaps of folks for you to tease, and all the ugliness you please. It's surely a waste of time when all those trees are yours to climb.
[00:50:39] Ting a ring make haste king. I have something really nice to say. Ting a ring, a proper king, would not make me sing all day. That's a long song that she had to sing. Don't make me sing all day. Yeah, she's like, I can't remember all the words [00:51:00] to this song. This will be worrisome. It all comes back to being worrisome.
[00:51:06] So the, she, the king is like, oh, this is great. I see this girl and she seems like fun to hang out with. And he notices that she has really bright brown eyes, so he calls her Eyebright. And actually, she said that's her name. Her name was Eyebright. And when asked where she learned that song, she's like, Oh, I learned it from the magician, and he taught me the song.
[00:51:27] And the king was like, Okay. So they start chit chatting. And he's telling her how he thinks the kingdom's so dumb. And kingdom's beautiful. He's like, No, it's not, it's dumb. And she's like, Okay I don't think you should think it's dumb. I think we should go and see the magician. Because something's wrong with you.
[00:51:45] And I don't see why you think it's dumb. And he's like, Okay, fine. So they go together to this place called the Middle Island and they go through the woods onto this boat and then they get to the Magician's Cave. First of all, where is everyone's parents? These kids are eight. Yeah, [00:52:00] no kidding. But he's a king.
[00:52:02] It don't matter. I'm like, where's the adult in this situation? They just let them get on a boat and go into a cave with a strange dude? That's not good. Magician, like, in a cave. I'm like, I don't trust this situation. Okay, the two get to the cave, and then the magician is there, and the magician is like, Who's this, Ibright?
[00:52:22] And she's like, Oh, it's my new friend, the king. And he's like, okay. And she's like, magician, I need you to help me with the king, with Ibright, with Lula, sorry. I need you to help me with King Wistful and show him what a great kingdom he has. So the magician's like, Okay, but first, we must eat. So he puts out a beautiful spread.
[00:52:41] He goes. He clapped his hands and all of a sudden there's food and tea and cakes and everyone's so happy. So they have a nice party, they eat lunch, they chit chat, and then they're telling the magician what's going on. And the magician's like, the reason that you can't see that you [00:53:00] have a beautiful kingdom is because wimps, which I couldn't figure out what wimps were wimps threw dust in your eyes as a baby.
[00:53:08] I think they're like mischievous tiny spirits. That's what I was... Like wisps? Like wisps, yeah, I think so. Maybe they meant wisps, but it's called wimps. I don't know. But they're just like wisps. They're mysterious, they're like mischievous spirits. So the magician's like, okay the, these little mischievous spirits, they would do it because they're mischievous.
[00:53:30] And then you have to go and try to get them to reverse it, but you have to go to Wimpland and this is how you get there. So he writes them a map. So now these kids, again, without supervision, are going on another trip. To Wimpland. So he sends them there in a flash of lightning. So now the king...
[00:53:48] And Eyebrite, they get to Wimpland and they're looking around and they find a wimp to talk to. And the wimp is like, Oh it was me actually. I'm the one who threw dust in kids eyes. And the wimp is like, What? And they were like, [00:54:00] What? And the wimp is like, Yeah, sorry about that. And then the wimp is like, the only thing you can do now is I can't fix your eyesight, but you could trade eyes with somebody.
[00:54:09] And Eyebrite's like, Oh my god, you, yeah. Eyebrite's like, You can have my eyes. And the king is like I don't want to take your eyes, because that's mean. I don't want to just make you not have my eyes, that's weird. And I feel bad, and you've been so helpful, Eyebrite. I don't want to take your beautiful eyes.
[00:54:26] Eyebrite's like, no, you gotta do it. I want you to be happy. I want you to see how beautiful the world is. And the king's like, okay, fine. All of a sudden they switch eyes, because all these fairy tales have people switching eyes so easily. I guess nobody has parents, yeah, and blood vessels, but that's fine.
[00:54:46] So they switch their Not a care in the world. Everyone's just popping their eyes in and out. Not, are they washing their hands? We don't know. They should be. So they switch eyes and then Eyebrite looks and [00:55:00] now Eyebrite just sees like five boring islands but the king sees like this beautiful kingdom and like all this beautiful little magic and wonder And the king is going on and on to Ibrite about like, Oh my God, isn't this so beautiful?
[00:55:14] And Ibrite's like, Oh, it looks pretty bad to me. But it's fine. So Ibrite runs away and the king goes home to bed. That's literally what the story says. And then the final lines of the story talk about how there's a queen now in the monotonous isles, but now they're back to being the cheerful isles.
[00:55:32] And the queen always tells, the king, how beautiful, everything, because the king's so happy, and the queen has to remember to see everything with the king's eyes. I don't know what the point of this story was, everybody. I just found it, and I read it, and I was like, this is a story we're gonna tell? But it's one of those fairytales where it's like, Yeah, it's like, I don't know, I thought there was going to be the moral that I thought, and then it wasn't.
[00:55:53] So I don't know. So that's the story of the Magician's Dream. It's
[00:55:56] Ashley: hidden somewhere. It's hidden somewhere. We
[00:55:58] Susana: don't have the eyes [00:56:00] to see yet the meaning of this. Exactly! And it's called The Magician's Tea Party, and The Magician's Tea Party was the shortest part of the story, but okay. It is what it is.
[00:56:12] I don't know, guys. I've been thinking about this long into the night, trying to find the meaning here. Yeah, like, what is this about? I don't know, but it's, that's the story. And I'm happy we got to tell another unusual fairy tale, because I just love it. Anyway. That brings us to the end of our show.
[00:56:34] With that, goodbye. No, wait.
[00:56:40] Appreciate what you have, people. Appreciate your eyes. SM, thank you for being here so much. I really appreciate it. If you want to tell everybody just where they can find you on the internet and all that good stuff, it'd be much appreciated. Sure thing,
[00:56:56] Ashley: you can find me on most social medias, [00:57:00] on Instagram, on Twitter, th
[00:57:02] Susana: threads,
[00:57:04] Ashley: of Facebook, Pinterest, I do not yet have a TikTok, but I've been thinking about it, but yes, you can find me at the Tea Witch blog and all of these, actually, all of these social media platforms.
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[00:57:19] Susana: look me up and I am there Yay Okay. Thank you so much. This has been great. Thank you for talking about tea and hanging out. So everybody this is diamond the divine again. We're on instagram facebook tiktok threads and if you like the show please pause and give us a follow make sure you're following us and some oh my gosh sorry i'm like failing at this make sure you're following us and if you could give us a five star rating that's always helpful in a review On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you listen to this.
[00:57:56] If you have any suggestions for the episodes or any [00:58:00] questions or comments, feel free to email me at Diamond five pod@gmail.com. And if you wanna follow me, Ashley, I'm Sankofa HS, and that's Sankofa, S-A-N-K-O-F-A-H-S, and Kofa Healing Sanctuary on Facebook. Thank you so much, SSM, for being here, and thank all of you for listening, and I'll talk to you next.
[00:58:22] Bye bye. Bye
[00:58:24] Ashley: bye.
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